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Anna VanAgtmael Joins Phil Better to Share Unexpected Truths About Reinventing Your Career

2025-04-23

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Guest Bio

Anna VanAgtmael is a driven entrepreneur who has innovatively combined adventure and personal growth into empowering retreats worldwide

Key Lessons From Episode

  • Start small and build trust—local, shorter offers nurture early audiences and provide valuable experience before going big.
  • Authenticity and vulnerability online help potential clients connect with you and trust your brand.
  • Never plan or run retreats alone; hiring help is essential for success and sanity.
  • Always be prepared for unforeseen challenges—flexibility and backup plans are critical, especially with travel logistics.
  • Ask for and embrace constructive feedback to continually improve your offerings.
  • Invest in personal growth and self-care so you can show up as your best self for clients and your business.
  • Group size matters—smaller, intentional groups maintain intimacy and the unique experience participants seek.
  • Timestamps

    [01:23] Meet Anna VanAgtmael – Anna is welcomed to the show; background as founder of Wandering Roots, focused on adventure retreats and entrepreneur mentorship.

    [01:54] Breaking Away from 9-to-5 – Anna shares her transition from a corporate career in molecular diagnostics to entrepreneurship, spurred on by a life-changing neck surgery.

    [03:44] Starting Something New – Discovering yoga and saying “yes” to things outside her comfort zone starts Anna’s journey to personal growth and business ownership.

    [05:05] Launching the First Business – Anna helps her husband begin his landscaping business, managing the back-end essentials of entrepreneurship.

    [05:56] The Birth of Wandering Roots – Anna launches her first women’s retreat, initially as a side hustle, driven by her passion for combining travel and connection.

    [07:39] Challenges of Hosting Retreats – Anna details the realities of planning transformational retreats and the unique pressures versus traditional entrepreneurship.

    [08:22] Facing Doubts and Learning Curves – Anna reflects on her earliest retreats, the significant learning involved, and her advice for first-time hosts.

    [10:27] Maintaining Intimacy as You Scale – How Anna keeps her retreats personal and connected, even as her business grows, by limiting group sizes.

    [12:36] Lessons from the Road – Anna reveals the toughest surprises and logistical hurdles she’s encountered, plus advice for building a loyal audience.

    [15:30] Memorable Retreat Experiences – Anna recalls stand-out retreats in Banff and Sicily, explaining both her biggest challenges and how each event shapes her process.

    [17:54] Investing in Yourself – Anna’s commitment to her own growth, from attending retreats as a guest to ongoing professional development and marketing efforts.

    [20:15] Looking to the Future – Anna discusses her evolving role as a retreat mentor and embracing change and openness in her entrepreneurial journey.

    [22:13] Building Trust with Clients – Anna’s approach to creating safety, authenticity, and rapport with strangers joining her transformative retreats.

    [26:05] Feedback and Continuous Improvement – The importance of vulnerability and feedback in refining the retreat experience for her guests.

    [28:46] Listening to Guests – Responding to constructive criticism to improve retreat structure and enhance the participant experience.

    [29:41] Advice for Her Younger Self – Anna shares motivational wisdom she’d give to her 10-year-old self: keep going and believe in yourself.

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